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tjlincoln wrote:

Legwand 3.5
Greening 2.75
Cowen 3.7
Phillips 2.7
Neil 1.5 all Cap hits for this coming year.

Does anyone think any of those are movable?


 Well the easy one to move is gone.

Lehner and Legs to Buffalo for the 21st pick (pending trade call)

That's a good deal for a young goalie with question marks (E.g. Markstrom).  I would rather have dealt Andy but you have to take this deal.



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Good for Lehner. Will get a chance to win the starting job. Glad they kept Anderson.



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tjlincoln wrote:

Legwand 3.5
Greening 2.75
Cowen 3.7
Phillips 2.7
Neil 1.5 all Cap hits for this coming year.

Does anyone think any of those are movable?


 Back to this list though:

 

- Greening will be traded with probably $1-1.2 million retained for a late pick or as part of a Wiercioch trade

- Cowen isn't going anywhere

- Phillips and Neil both finish their deals and are gone at the end of the season (no need to dump).

 



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With alfie moving into front office duties, lehner had to go. Alfie needs his house back. 



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1st rounder for Lehner.  Legwand is essentially a salary dump, Sens won't miss him.  Buffalo could use that extra salary to get to the cap floor, do Sens a favor by taking him off our books and don't give up an additional 2nd/3rd rdn pick.

$5.225M off the books and no salary taken back.   Expecting to see Condra and Hoffman signed soon.



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Homer, Youhave noted the same Important deal I was thinking of earlier: two players out, not cost (salary) in return. Makes the trade even better.

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Breaking; Boston just tried to trade Kessell to Calgary for a 1st. They almost got away with it too, until someone tipped off Burke.



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Homer and Kardinal couldn't agree more about Lehner deal, I forgot about Lehners salary also going to Buffalo it just makes that deal better and better. I can't believe GMBM got a first round pick in THIS years draft for Lehner. This draft is deep and good and now to have 2 1sts and 2 2nd's in one of the deepest drafts in years is fantastic.

It's going to be an interesting 2 days to see how everything shakes out.

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Gryba's gone a year early , but it does help with my wishlist for fixing the defense this offseason:

  • Trade Wiercioch (sell high)
  • Trade Gryba  - Check
  • Sign a #4 RD (older player and relatively cheap $9.5/2 years)
  • Phillips either goes on LTIR or accepts a #7 role

Allows Ceci to work on his game a bit on the third pairing and can swap in with the second pairing as needed.  Cowen is on his last shot with a veteran hopefully providing some guidance.

Methot - Karlsson

Cowen - UFA

Boro - Ceci

Phillips/Wideman

 

 



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AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)

After the Pronger trade, here's an idea:
LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards.
Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary.
LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit
I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.

SUCK IT NHL!

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Pan wrote:

AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)

After the Pronger trade, here's an idea:
LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards.
Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary.
LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit
I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.

SUCK IT NHL!


 Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up  I have no earthly idea what you proposed.



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Today in Senators history:

 

23 years ago: Groundbreaking ceremony for The Palladium
16 years ago: Senators sign Chris Neil to a multi-year deal
13 years ago: Senators trade Shawn McEachern + 6th round pick to ATL for Brian Pothier
5 years ago: Senators bought out Jonathan Cheechoo

 


Also, happy 52nd birthday to Peter Sidorkiewicz.

 



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Happy we got Wideman for 1-year 2-way.

 

EK-MM

CC-PW

Wideman-JCows/Boro

Phillips 7th D



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tjlincoln wrote:
Pan wrote:

AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)

After the Pronger trade, here's an idea:
LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards.
Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary.
LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit
I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.

SUCK IT NHL!


 Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up  I have no earthly idea what you proposed.


 Seems like the Kings have outsmarted me by simply firing Mike Richards



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Pan wrote:
tjlincoln wrote:
Pan wrote:

AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)

After the Pronger trade, here's an idea:
LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards.
Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary.
LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit
I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.

SUCK IT NHL!


 Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up  I have no earthly idea what you proposed.


 Seems like the Kings have outsmarted me by simply firing Mike Richards


this should be fun to watch, how this plays out. reading stuff of a potential severe off-ice incident. a bunch of lawyers are going to hit the jackpot on this one.



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Glad Gryba is gone. He shot animals for sport. he's a dick.



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The Richards situation is interesting.... "Severe breach of contract"????

I'm getting worried about the Condra situation. Sounds like they haven't really even talked. BMur asked his agent today to give them and idea by tomorrow of what he's looking for contract-wise.


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SensKat wrote:

The Richards situation is interesting.... "Severe breach of contract"????

I'm getting worried about the Condra situation. Sounds like they haven't really even talked. BMur asked his agent today to give them and idea by tomorrow of what he's looking for contract-wise.


 after listening to Dorian the other day it seems to me it's come down to a numbers game for Condra, unless he comes in at their price they have guys waiting to take his spot anyway.  Puempel, Prince etc.  He is a very very good 3rd line player but the Sens have guys that need to be on the team from the minors so if he walks they will replace him with someone capable.



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tjlincoln wrote:
SensKat wrote:

The Richards situation is interesting.... "Severe breach of contract"????

I'm getting worried about the Condra situation. Sounds like they haven't really even talked. BMur asked his agent today to give them and idea by tomorrow of what he's looking for contract-wise.


 after listening to Dorian the other day it seems to me it's come down to a numbers game for Condra, unless he comes in at their price they have guys waiting to take his spot anyway.  Puempel, Prince etc.  He is a very very good 3rd line player but the Sens have guys that need to be on the team from the minors so if he walks they will replace him with someone capable.


 Agreed.  This team is full of pluggers. Hopefully Puempel gets a sniff next year and Lazar gets a little more ice time, as well.

Priority would be resigning Hoffman.



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Condra wants three years and I'm ok with that if the cap hit is iess than $2 million per. We have a bunch of young guys looking to come up, but only Robinson is close as a RW. Lindberg is probably 3 years away. I'd say that Lazar will spend most of the season in the AHL rather than the NHL, and a good chunk of the next as well. That leaves Stone, Ryan, Chiasson, and Neil on the right. Neil will be a 13th forward rolling in and out with Chiasson. Condra would do well holding down the fort with JGP and Michalek on the third line.

Hoffman will get a one year show me deal.



 
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