Glad Gryba is gone. He shot animals for sport. he's a dick.
Russell said
Jun 29, 2015
Pan wrote:
tjlincoln wrote:
Pan wrote:
AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)
After the Pronger trade, here's an idea: LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards. Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary. LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.
SUCK IT NHL!
Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up I have no earthly idea what you proposed.
Seems like the Kings have outsmarted me by simply firing Mike Richards
this should be fun to watch, how this plays out. reading stuff of a potential severe off-ice incident. a bunch of lawyers are going to hit the jackpot on this one.
Pan said
Jun 29, 2015
tjlincoln wrote:
Pan wrote:
AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)
After the Pronger trade, here's an idea: LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards. Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary. LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.
SUCK IT NHL!
Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up I have no earthly idea what you proposed.
Seems like the Kings have outsmarted me by simply firing Mike Richards
SensDawg said
Jun 29, 2015
Happy we got Wideman for 1-year 2-way.
EK-MM
CC-PW
Wideman-JCows/Boro
Phillips 7th D
Kardinal said
Jun 29, 2015
Today in Senators history:
23 years ago: Groundbreaking ceremony for The Palladium 16 years ago: Senators sign Chris Neil to a multi-year deal 13 years ago: Senators trade Shawn McEachern + 6th round pick to ATL for Brian Pothier 5 years ago: Senators bought out Jonathan Cheechoo
Also, happy 52nd birthday to Peter Sidorkiewicz.
tjlincoln said
Jun 29, 2015
Pan wrote:
AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)
After the Pronger trade, here's an idea: LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards. Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary. LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.
SUCK IT NHL!
Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up I have no earthly idea what you proposed.
Pan said
Jun 28, 2015
AO, I've been dreaming for Oduya and that money may be enough (can't pay anyone more than Methot)
After the Pronger trade, here's an idea:
LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards.
Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary.
LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit
I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.
SUCK IT NHL!
Agent Orange said
Jun 28, 2015
Gryba's gone a year early , but it does help with my wishlist for fixing the defense this offseason:
Trade Wiercioch (sell high)
Trade Gryba - Check
Sign a #4 RD (older player and relatively cheap $9.5/2 years)
Phillips either goes on LTIR or accepts a #7 role
Allows Ceci to work on his game a bit on the third pairing and can swap in with the second pairing as needed. Cowen is on his last shot with a veteran hopefully providing some guidance.
Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - UFA
Boro - Ceci
Phillips/Wideman
tjlincoln said
Jun 26, 2015
Homer and Kardinal couldn't agree more about Lehner deal, I forgot about Lehners salary also going to Buffalo it just makes that deal better and better. I can't believe GMBM got a first round pick in THIS years draft for Lehner. This draft is deep and good and now to have 2 1sts and 2 2nd's in one of the deepest drafts in years is fantastic.
It's going to be an interesting 2 days to see how everything shakes out.
Russell said
Jun 26, 2015
Breaking; Boston just tried to trade Kessell to Calgary for a 1st. They almost got away with it too, until someone tipped off Burke.
Kardinal said
Jun 26, 2015
Homer, Youhave noted the same
Important deal I was thinking of earlier: two players out, not cost (salary) in return. Makes the trade even better.
Homer said
Jun 26, 2015
1st rounder for Lehner. Legwand is essentially a salary dump, Sens won't miss him. Buffalo could use that extra salary to get to the cap floor, do Sens a favor by taking him off our books and don't give up an additional 2nd/3rd rdn pick.
$5.225M off the books and no salary taken back. Expecting to see Condra and Hoffman signed soon.
Russell said
Jun 26, 2015
With alfie moving into front office duties, lehner had to go. Alfie needs his house back.
Agent Orange said
Jun 26, 2015
tjlincoln wrote:
Legwand 3.5 Greening 2.75 Cowen 3.7 Phillips 2.7 Neil 1.5 all Cap hits for this coming year.
Does anyone think any of those are movable?
Back to this list though:
- Greening will be traded with probably $1-1.2 million retained for a late pick or as part of a Wiercioch trade
- Cowen isn't going anywhere
- Phillips and Neil both finish their deals and are gone at the end of the season (no need to dump).
senior said
Jun 26, 2015
Good for Lehner. Will get a chance to win the starting job. Glad they kept Anderson.
Agent Orange said
Jun 26, 2015
tjlincoln wrote:
Legwand 3.5 Greening 2.75 Cowen 3.7 Phillips 2.7 Neil 1.5 all Cap hits for this coming year.
Does anyone think any of those are movable?
Well the easy one to move is gone.
Lehner and Legs to Buffalo for the 21st pick (pending trade call)
That's a good deal for a young goalie with question marks (E.g. Markstrom). I would rather have dealt Andy but you have to take this deal.
SensKat said
Jun 25, 2015
Kardinal wrote:
SIGNED!!
Mikachu: 2 yrs AAV $2.625M (2.0, 3.25)
Mark Stone: 3 yrs AAV $3.5M (2.25, 3.75, 4.5)
Good deals for both players IMO.
GREAT signings. Very happy to have these guys locked up for a couple of years.
tjlincoln said
Jun 25, 2015
Legwand 3.5
Greening 2.75
Cowen 3.7
Phillips 2.7
Neil 1.5 all Cap hits for this coming year.
Does anyone think any of those are movable?
tjlincoln said
Jun 25, 2015
Kardinal wrote:
SIGNED!!
Mikachu: 2 yrs AAV $2.625M (2.0, 3.25)
Mark Stone: 3 yrs AAV $3.5M (2.25, 3.75, 4.5)
Good deals for both players IMO.
This sport sure isn't Baseball, if Stone were at the same point in MLB, say first year of Arbitration he'd be making 10M a season or there about instead of a paltry 3.5 average.
Toews and Kane would be pushing 30M a season if they were on the verge of Free Agent status.
Glad Gryba is gone. He shot animals for sport. he's a dick.
this should be fun to watch, how this plays out. reading stuff of a potential severe off-ice incident. a bunch of lawyers are going to hit the jackpot on this one.
Seems like the Kings have outsmarted me by simply firing Mike Richards
Happy we got Wideman for 1-year 2-way.
EK-MM
CC-PW
Wideman-JCows/Boro
Phillips 7th D
Today in Senators history:
23 years ago: Groundbreaking ceremony for The Palladium
16 years ago: Senators sign Chris Neil to a multi-year deal
13 years ago: Senators trade Shawn McEachern + 6th round pick to ATL for Brian Pothier
5 years ago: Senators bought out Jonathan Cheechoo
Also, happy 52nd birthday to Peter Sidorkiewicz.
Only someone extremely good at math could think that type of transaction up
I have no earthly idea what you proposed.
After the Pronger trade, here's an idea:
LA will need to buy out either Voynov or Richards.
Trade Greening and whatever to LA for whatever and the cap hit. Retain 50% of Greening's salary.
LA then buys out Greening. They get a lot less of a cap hit
I believe that the salary retention (and cash payout) would drop due to the payout - so, you've turned the approx $4M to about $1M.
SUCK IT NHL!
Gryba's gone a year early , but it does help with my wishlist for fixing the defense this offseason:
Allows Ceci to work on his game a bit on the third pairing and can swap in with the second pairing as needed. Cowen is on his last shot with a veteran hopefully providing some guidance.
Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - UFA
Boro - Ceci
Phillips/Wideman
It's going to be an interesting 2 days to see how everything shakes out.
Breaking; Boston just tried to trade Kessell to Calgary for a 1st. They almost got away with it too, until someone tipped off Burke.
1st rounder for Lehner. Legwand is essentially a salary dump, Sens won't miss him. Buffalo could use that extra salary to get to the cap floor, do Sens a favor by taking him off our books and don't give up an additional 2nd/3rd rdn pick.
$5.225M off the books and no salary taken back. Expecting to see Condra and Hoffman signed soon.
With alfie moving into front office duties, lehner had to go. Alfie needs his house back.
Back to this list though:
- Greening will be traded with probably $1-1.2 million retained for a late pick or as part of a Wiercioch trade
- Cowen isn't going anywhere
- Phillips and Neil both finish their deals and are gone at the end of the season (no need to dump).
Good for Lehner. Will get a chance to win the starting job. Glad they kept Anderson.
Well the easy one to move is gone.
Lehner and Legs to Buffalo for the 21st pick (pending trade call)
That's a good deal for a young goalie with question marks (E.g. Markstrom). I would rather have dealt Andy but you have to take this deal.
GREAT signings. Very happy to have these guys locked up for a couple of years.
Greening 2.75
Cowen 3.7
Phillips 2.7
Neil 1.5 all Cap hits for this coming year.
Does anyone think any of those are movable?
This sport sure isn't Baseball, if Stone were at the same point in MLB, say first year of Arbitration he'd be making 10M a season or there about instead of a paltry 3.5 average.
Toews and Kane would be pushing 30M a season if they were on the verge of Free Agent status.
SIGNED!!
Mikachu: 2 yrs AAV $2.625M (2.0, 3.25)
Mark Stone: 3 yrs AAV $3.5M (2.25, 3.75, 4.5)
Good deals for both players IMO.