SensKat wrote: You know what grinds my gears? Users that send you a "signed off" Business Requirements Doc.... and then spend the next 2 weeks sending you "additional requirements", "spec updates"... and don't understand why you can't give them dev estimates.
You know what stops that?
Replies of "out of scope / no further requirements accepted other than through the formal change request process". You will get some short-term friction, but I found it worked pretty well in the longer term.
Yeah, we've tried that. Then they just refuse to sign off on UAT, and escalate through management on both sides. This particular client has probably more power than they should.
This project has been underway for 14 months now, they decided they didn't like what was delivered (even though it was on spec), and now we are in the process of redefining the requirements and starting over from scratch.
They want 7 blue lines, 2 with red ink, 2 with green ink and all perpendicular to each other?
SensKat said
Feb 2, 2016
I give up on trying to figure out this game.
Pan said
Feb 2, 2016
this game is out of scope
senior said
Feb 2, 2016
You really, really should not take penalties against these guys.
SensKat said
Feb 2, 2016
So.... how is that only a 2 minute exactly?
SensKat said
Feb 2, 2016
Kardinal wrote:
SensKat wrote: You know what grinds my gears? Users that send you a "signed off" Business Requirements Doc.... and then spend the next 2 weeks sending you "additional requirements", "spec updates"... and don't understand why you can't give them dev estimates.
You know what stops that?
Replies of "out of scope / no further requirements accepted other than through the formal change request process". You will get some short-term friction, but I found it worked pretty well in the longer term.
Yeah, we've tried that. Then they just refuse to sign off on UAT, and escalate through management on both sides. This particular client has probably more power than they should.
This project has been underway for 14 months now, they decided they didn't like what was delivered (even though it was on spec), and now we are in the process of redefining the requirements and starting over from scratch.
tjlincoln said
Feb 2, 2016
Pan wrote:
this is what happens when both teams have terrible defence, isn't it?
Exactly and sad for our team
Kardinal said
Feb 2, 2016
SensKat wrote: You know what grinds my gears? Users that send you a "signed off" Business Requirements Doc.... and then spend the next 2 weeks sending you "additional requirements", "spec updates"... and don't understand why you can't give them dev estimates.
You know what stops that?
Replies of "out of scope / no further requirements accepted other than through the formal change request process". You will get some short-term friction, but I found it worked pretty well in the longer term.
SensKat said
Feb 2, 2016
Kardinal wrote:
Anythng interesting in this game so far? Just another low scoring struggle, right?
Boring, really....
Kardinal said
Feb 2, 2016
Anythng interesting in this game so far? Just another low scoring struggle, right?
Homer said
Feb 2, 2016
SensKat wrote:
Homer wrote:
Pan, Kat, when is TWD starting up again?
Feb 14th!
lol, perfect Valentine's Day date. Gonna have to re-watch the last few episodes to remember what leads up the new episode
Pan said
Feb 2, 2016
thank God - I need something positive in my life
SensKat said
Feb 2, 2016
Homer wrote:
Pan, Kat, when is TWD starting up again?
Feb 14th!
Homer said
Feb 2, 2016
Pan, Kat, when is TWD starting up again?
Pan said
Feb 2, 2016
I said 2-1 so there's that
Homer said
Feb 2, 2016
Pan wrote:
this is what happens when both teams have terrible defence, isn't it?
so my 3-2 prediction was low?
Homer said
Feb 2, 2016
SensKat wrote:
oh ffs
Something else for your desk at work
Pan said
Feb 2, 2016
this is what happens when both teams have terrible defence, isn't it?
SensKat said
Feb 2, 2016
oh ffs
Pan said
Feb 2, 2016
Also, Canuck has mentioned this in person, I believe on the show too.
If Pittsburgh would have challenged the Ceci goal, they could have discussed what they did on their timeout with equal or greater time. Lack of strategy by not doing that.
They want 7 blue lines, 2 with red ink, 2 with green ink and all perpendicular to each other?
this game is out of scope
You really, really should not take penalties against these guys.
Yeah, we've tried that. Then they just refuse to sign off on UAT, and escalate through management on both sides. This particular client has probably more power than they should.
This project has been underway for 14 months now, they decided they didn't like what was delivered (even though it was on spec), and now we are in the process of redefining the requirements and starting over from scratch.
Exactly and sad for our team
You know what stops that?
Replies of "out of scope / no further requirements accepted other than through the formal change request process". You will get some short-term friction, but I found it worked pretty well in the longer term.
Boring, really....
lol, perfect Valentine's Day date. Gonna have to re-watch the last few episodes to remember what leads up the new episode
thank God - I need something positive in my life
Feb 14th!
Pan, Kat, when is TWD starting up again?
I said 2-1 so there's that
so my 3-2 prediction was low?
Something else for your desk at work
If Pittsburgh would have challenged the Ceci goal, they could have discussed what they did on their timeout with equal or greater time. Lack of strategy by not doing that.