if the deal was better for us, sure, trade with the laffs or the habs. I don't care if we get the better of them.
labru said
Jun 27, 2014
I know that the 2015 draft is considered a much better group, but would you prefer a 2014 or a 2015 1st rounder in return for Spezza? Considering that a 2015 pick is probably a year further away from being NHL-ready and the ongoing rebuild and all...
labru said
Jun 27, 2014
So if I understand correctly a lot of you guys wouldn't mind a trade with Toronto, if the return is right?
I wouldn't either, especially if Murray can extract that extra piece/better piece because they're an arch rival.
I would hate to see a trade for trade's sake with a 'bad' return, just because Murray doesn't want to trade Spezza to Toronto or Montreal.
Kardinal said
Jun 22, 2014
Russell wrote:
Kadri is a cheapshot weasel. i would never EVER want him on the sens.
I agree, on both counts. I've never said we'd keep him, just that we'd take him as part of a trade. GMBM could then turn around and trade him elsewhere for something else.
For the record: Kadri is a GUTLESS cheapshot weasel. Key point.
tjlincoln said
Jun 22, 2014
cheapshot weasels can change, can't they?
Russell said
Jun 22, 2014
Kadri is a cheapshot weasel. i would never EVER want him on the sens.
tjlincoln said
Jun 22, 2014
Kardinal's right, I'd do that trade he's got there. Remember what happened to ClarkeMacArthur once the Leaf stink was erased.
Kardinal said
Jun 21, 2014
IF....key word, IF.....Spezza was traded to the Make Beliefs, Kadri isn't the key piece of the deal, he's one of the other pieces. 2015-1st, Kadri and prospect (like Gauthier). Not a 1-for-1.
senior said
Jun 21, 2014
Spezza for Kadri. To even consider this trade is to indicate how screwed up things have gotten.
Russell said
Jun 21, 2014
shut up!!!!!!!!!
canuck said
Jun 21, 2014
I'd be game for a Spezza for Kadri trade. At this point
Agent Orange said
Jun 20, 2014
The Hockey Chat@TheHockeyChat
The Ottawa Senators have contacted the Toronto Maple Leafs regarding the availability of Nazem Kadri #NHL No official offer as of yet
Sold for Kadri + 8th + Gauthier.
Kardinal said
Jun 20, 2014
I'd laugh if TOR did put up a bunch of assets to get Spezza, he played a year there, hated the media and fans, and then left as a UFA. Two firsts and a second is probably a bit steep, so I'll settle for a 2015-1st, Kadri and Frederick Gauthier (a centre prospect who plays for Rimouski).
SensKat said
Jun 19, 2014
I can see why he would put the Devils on his list - that is probably one of the biggest mismatches of playing styles in the history of hockey.
And he got all of the other Canadian teams, plus the biggest bottom-feeders. Pretty decent list if that's accurate.
Agent Orange said
Jun 19, 2014
SensKat wrote:
So Spezza and his agent did a very smart thing - when he handed in his list of 10 teams he couldn't be traded to, he didn't put either the Leafs or Habs on there. Basically means 12 teams he can't be traded to instead.
If they were smarter they would have put teams out west instead of the Devils (as they don't have the trade chips to get a deal done) and Sabres (Division).
I almost hope that Toronto destroys their remaining prospect depth in overpaying for him.
Pan said
Jun 18, 2014
True, but look back at the teeth-gnashing over "this is the third year of the rebuild so we should be making the playoffs" or "the rebuild is over now so we should be contending" or "how can we be worse now than at the start of the rebuild" and you'll see that the fan base wants the team to be rebuilt, but even faster than Leafers expect their team to do it. Basically, I-want-changes-but-expect-the-playoffs-no-matter-what-and-I'm-the-customer-so-I'm-always-right mentality. Everything, plus a pony. Or in Sens fans case, a unicorn vomiting rainbows.
Pretty sure that was me.
SensKat said
Jun 18, 2014
So Spezza and his agent did a very smart thing - when he handed in his list of 10 teams he couldn't be traded to, he didn't put either the Leafs or Habs on there. Basically means 12 teams he can't be traded to instead.
Agent Orange said
Jun 17, 2014
Unfortunately that section of the fan base is the most visibly vocal, and drives the rational ones insane.
I've got plenty of years under my belt as a Bills fan, I've learned to temper expectations.
Kardinal said
Jun 17, 2014
Agent Orange wrote:
Given a decent trade return and any improvement on D, I think the team could sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard. Even if they don't it'll only be 1, 2 at most, seasons of not making the playoffs.
True, but look back at the teeth-gnashing over "this is the third year of the rebuild so we should be making the playoffs" or "the rebuild is over now so we should be contending" or "how can we be worse now than at the start of the rebuild" and you'll see that the fan base wants the team to be rebuilt, but even faster than Leafers expect their team to do it. Basically, I-want-changes-but-expect-the-playoffs-no-matter-what-and-I'm-the-customer-so-I'm-always-right mentality. Everything, plus a pony. Or in Sens fans case, a unicorn vomiting rainbows.
Agent Orange said
Jun 16, 2014
Given a decent trade return and any improvement on D, I think the team could sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard. Even if they don't it'll only be 1, 2 at most, seasons of not making the playoffs.
And until somebody other than Brad May comes out and says it is a 100% budget thing, and is not "wanting out due to the pressure being all on him", then I still believe that it is damage control by Spezza's camp.
I wouldn't either, especially if Murray can extract that extra piece/better piece because they're an arch rival.
I would hate to see a trade for trade's sake with a 'bad' return, just because Murray doesn't want to trade Spezza to Toronto or Montreal.
I agree, on both counts. I've never said we'd keep him, just that we'd take him as part of a trade. GMBM could then turn around and trade him elsewhere for something else.
For the record: Kadri is a GUTLESS cheapshot weasel. Key point.
And he got all of the other Canadian teams, plus the biggest bottom-feeders. Pretty decent list if that's accurate.
Sports Illustrated has it as:
NY Isles, Devils, Preds, Flames, Oilers, Canucks, Jets, Sabres, Jackets, Panthers
If they were smarter they would have put teams out west instead of the Devils (as they don't have the trade chips to get a deal done) and Sabres (Division).
I almost hope that Toronto destroys their remaining prospect depth in overpaying for him.
True, but look back at the teeth-gnashing over "this is the third year of the rebuild so we should be making the playoffs" or "the rebuild is over now so we should be contending" or "how can we be worse now than at the start of the rebuild" and you'll see that the fan base wants the team to be rebuilt, but even faster than Leafers expect their team to do it. Basically, I-want-changes-but-expect-the-playoffs-no-matter-what-and-I'm-the-customer-so-I'm-always-right mentality. Everything, plus a pony. Or in Sens fans case, a unicorn vomiting rainbows.
Pretty sure that was me.
I've got plenty of years under my belt as a Bills fan, I've learned to temper expectations.
True, but look back at the teeth-gnashing over "this is the third year of the rebuild so we should be making the playoffs" or "the rebuild is over now so we should be contending" or "how can we be worse now than at the start of the rebuild" and you'll see that the fan base wants the team to be rebuilt, but even faster than Leafers expect their team to do it. Basically, I-want-changes-but-expect-the-playoffs-no-matter-what-and-I'm-the-customer-so-I'm-always-right mentality. Everything, plus a pony. Or in Sens fans case, a unicorn vomiting rainbows.
And until somebody other than Brad May comes out and says it is a 100% budget thing, and is not "wanting out due to the pressure being all on him", then I still believe that it is damage control by Spezza's camp.