at least Marchand was sorry for the deliberate dirty hit he put on Boro, he could of only broken Boro's neck.......but he's only sorry for getting caught for what, the 4th or 5th time he's had a deliberate dirty hit? Shanahan was trying to put a stop this crap when the gave that BlueJacket 10 games but the GM's wanted no part of that and stopped Shanahan in his tracks to really stopping this type of play. But oh well at least the NHL doesn't have a movie like Concussion out like the NFL so it's all good.
He never apologized to Boro, he's only sorry for missing out on the Winter Classic and their trying to make it sound like he's a class act.
“I think it speaks a lot for Brad for wanting to be out in front of this today, the impact it has on the team, the game and the fans,” said general manager Don Sweeney. “He asked us if he could address it in front of teammates before we went out for practice. It speaks to maturity. It says a lot and the impact he has on our lineup.”
plus he got 5 games the last time he low bridged a player so he actually got off lighter and he's a multiple time repeat offender. You'd think Boston of all teams would be sensitive to guys actually trying to hurt other players with what happened to Bergeron and Savard. This guy is no better than Matt Cooke or Raffi Torres it's just that his hits haven't yet put someone out of the game (Savard) or in the hospital for an extended time (Bergeron). The NHL is not serious at all about stopping this stuff or they would have did it already.
remember what colin campbell said in that email that was leaked: " we sell hate".
tjlincoln said
Jan 1, 2016
Homer wrote:
tjlincoln wrote:
at least Marchand was sorry for the deliberate dirty hit he put on Boro, he could of only broken Boro's neck.......but he's only sorry for getting caught for what, the 4th or 5th time he's had a deliberate dirty hit? Shanahan was trying to put a stop this crap when the gave that BlueJacket 10 games but the GM's wanted no part of that and stopped Shanahan in his tracks to really stopping this type of play. But oh well at least the NHL doesn't have a movie like Concussion out like the NFL so it's all good.
He never apologized to Boro, he's only sorry for missing out on the Winter Classic and their trying to make it sound like he's a class act.
“I think it speaks a lot for Brad for wanting to be out in front of this today, the impact it has on the team, the game and the fans,” said general manager Don Sweeney. “He asked us if he could address it in front of teammates before we went out for practice. It speaks to maturity. It says a lot and the impact he has on our lineup.”
plus he got 5 games the last time he low bridged a player so he actually got off lighter and he's a multiple time repeat offender. You'd think Boston of all teams would be sensitive to guys actually trying to hurt other players with what happened to Bergeron and Savard. This guy is no better than Matt Cooke or Raffi Torres it's just that his hits haven't yet put someone out of the game (Savard) or in the hospital for an extended time (Bergeron). The NHL is not serious at all about stopping this stuff or they would have did it already.
Homer said
Jan 1, 2016
tjlincoln wrote:
at least Marchand was sorry for the deliberate dirty hit he put on Boro, he could of only broken Boro's neck.......but he's only sorry for getting caught for what, the 4th or 5th time he's had a deliberate dirty hit? Shanahan was trying to put a stop this crap when the gave that BlueJacket 10 games but the GM's wanted no part of that and stopped Shanahan in his tracks to really stopping this type of play. But oh well at least the NHL doesn't have a movie like Concussion out like the NFL so it's all good.
He never apologized to Boro, he's only sorry for missing out on the Winter Classic and their trying to make it sound like he's a class act.
“I think it speaks a lot for Brad for wanting to be out in front of this today, the impact it has on the team, the game and the fans,” said general manager Don Sweeney. “He asked us if he could address it in front of teammates before we went out for practice. It speaks to maturity. It says a lot and the impact he has on our lineup.”
tjlincoln said
Dec 31, 2015
at least Marchand was sorry for the deliberate dirty hit he put on Boro, he could of only broken Boro's neck.......but he's only sorry for getting caught for what, the 4th or 5th time he's had a deliberate dirty hit? Shanahan was trying to put a stop this crap when the gave that BlueJacket 10 games but the GM's wanted no part of that and stopped Shanahan in his tracks to really stopping this type of play. But oh well at least the NHL doesn't have a movie like Concussion out like the NFL so it's all good.
tjlincoln said
Dec 31, 2015
To me it's pretty obvious we are all getting fed up with the defense on this years team and really not contending for a Cup since 2007. I like Bryan Murray but Pan has a point he has made numerous bad decisions on coach's and has paid a lot of cap money to guys who don't contribute to a team not willing to spend to the cap.
The last 2 games were just awful by a team that is expecting to compete for a playoff spot and it's totally frustrating. AO is right about mid season trades and of the 3 teams I follow ALL 3 need and want defensemen Van, SJ and Ottawa. Ottawa has 2 studs on the way in White and Chabot but that's the future and Pan rightfully wants the now because he does put his money on the line and pays to watch this and I think I'm being kind, mediocre mess on D.
Agent Orange said
Dec 31, 2015
Pan wrote:
Sorry, but I totally disagree with you guys on this one. Yes, Bryan Murray is the GM. No, I am not a GM, but my clients also challenge me & some think they can do a better job than I can. It's just a fact as to how people feel about things. I don't compare my abilities to my clients, I compare my abilities to colleagues in the same position & peers in the industry. This comparison of GMs is fair and SHOULD BE DONE.
Murray has been in hockey for 40 years. He hasn't won anything. He is AT BEST a mediocre GM. Ottawa may be more challenging based in regards to how much funding you can do. That may or may not explain hiring of his last THREE head coaches who were first time NHL Head Coaches without other experience of which two ended in absolute flames & the current one is LUCKIER THAN HE IS GOOD
The Sens are 28th in shots for per game, 30th in shots against per game & the goal scoring is trending downwards as shooting percentage was high early.
Between Cowen & Greening, the Sens paid $5.5M in salary to not play tonight. This, in my opinion, is unacceptable. The healthy scratches in the playoffs way even more expensive. You can't win them all, but you would think that the team would know not to extend big money to guys who just got points with Spezza. He's made guys like Eaves, Bochenski & Greening lots of money that they didn't really deserve.
Saying that trades aren't done also doesn't pan out. This summer, we got an additional 1st round pick. Last year, we traded away Spezza for a player, pick and prospect. The year before that, We traded for Ryan for a player, pick & prospect. Why can't we do that again now for a top 4 defenceman from a bottom dwelling team? Would that impact the roster tragically? These trades happen every year, it's just the parity in the league that is slowing things down. Not the cap.
Everyone can criticize the team, but you can do so knowing that there's more to the story that we don't know. That doesn't mean that what the GM is doing or who the coach puts out is always the right move, but if you want to continue to be a Yes Man, go ahead. And sorry for me wanting to see the team that I support want to improve while knowing that there are 29 other teams that are doing the same thing.
I see a common trend here: all occurred in the off-season. Midseason trades are not going to happen outside of the trade deadline because of the league parity and too many teams are tight on the cap. Add in the simple fact that it's a seller's market now with only about 8 teams being out of it, limiting the available players to trade for of which most are utter crap.
canuck said
Dec 31, 2015
A lotta rage?
Kardinal said
Dec 31, 2015
I'll reply to the wall-of-text rant during our next episode, rather than here. It'll be more fun that way.
Pan said
Dec 31, 2015
The yes man comment was directed at Kardinal, not you, Russel
Russell said
Dec 31, 2015
Pan wrote:
Kardinal wrote:
Russell wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
Sorry, but I totally disagree with you guys on this one. Yes, Bryan Murray is the GM. No, I am not a GM, but my clients also challenge me & some think they can do a better job than I can. It's just a fact as to how people feel about things. I don't compare my abilities to my clients, I compare my abilities to colleagues in the same position & peers in the industry. This comparison of GMs is fair and SHOULD BE DONE.
Murray has been in hockey for 40 years. He hasn't won anything. He is AT BEST a mediocre GM. Ottawa may be more challenging based in regards to how much funding you can do. That may or may not explain hiring of his last THREE head coaches who were first time NHL Head Coaches without other experience of which two ended in absolute flames & the current one is LUCKIER THAN HE IS GOOD
The Sens are 28th in shots for per game, 30th in shots against per game & the goal scoring is trending downwards as shooting percentage was high early.
Between Cowen & Greening, the Sens paid $5.5M in salary to not play tonight. This, in my opinion, is unacceptable. The healthy scratches in the playoffs way even more expensive. You can't win them all, but you would think that the team would know not to extend big money to guys who just got points with Spezza. He's made guys like Eaves, Bochenski & Greening lots of money that they didn't really deserve.
Saying that trades aren't done also doesn't pan out. This summer, we got an additional 1st round pick. Last year, we traded away Spezza for a player, pick and prospect. The year before that, We traded for Ryan for a player, pick & prospect. Why can't we do that again now for a top 4 defenceman from a bottom dwelling team? Would that impact the roster tragically? These trades happen every year, it's just the parity in the league that is slowing things down. Not the cap.
Everyone can criticize the team, but you can do so knowing that there's more to the story that we don't know. That doesn't mean that what the GM is doing or who the coach puts out is always the right move, but if you want to continue to be a Yes Man, go ahead. And sorry for me wanting to see the team that I support want to improve while knowing that there are 29 other teams that are doing the same thing.
Good rant. I'm done with it though. Everyone has their opinions and one thing i know is people rarely change them. As for being a yes man, I think the 7 years on the podcast stands as evidence against that for me.
Russell said
Dec 31, 2015
senior wrote:
Russell wrote:
Kardinal wrote:
Russell wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
One of them did use the season ticket card. And I can't say I stayed rational when tucker's name came up.
Oh, and thanks for jumping in and helping me out, brother!
I can remember a couple of goaltender debates that went "twitter".
true...true....
Pan said
Dec 30, 2015
Kardinal wrote:
Russell wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
Sorry, but I totally disagree with you guys on this one. Yes, Bryan Murray is the GM. No, I am not a GM, but my clients also challenge me & some think they can do a better job than I can. It's just a fact as to how people feel about things. I don't compare my abilities to my clients, I compare my abilities to colleagues in the same position & peers in the industry. This comparison of GMs is fair and SHOULD BE DONE.
Murray has been in hockey for 40 years. He hasn't won anything. He is AT BEST a mediocre GM. Ottawa may be more challenging based in regards to how much funding you can do. That may or may not explain hiring of his last THREE head coaches who were first time NHL Head Coaches without other experience of which two ended in absolute flames & the current one is LUCKIER THAN HE IS GOOD
The Sens are 28th in shots for per game, 30th in shots against per game & the goal scoring is trending downwards as shooting percentage was high early.
Between Cowen & Greening, the Sens paid $5.5M in salary to not play tonight. This, in my opinion, is unacceptable. The healthy scratches in the playoffs way even more expensive. You can't win them all, but you would think that the team would know not to extend big money to guys who just got points with Spezza. He's made guys like Eaves, Bochenski & Greening lots of money that they didn't really deserve.
Saying that trades aren't done also doesn't pan out. This summer, we got an additional 1st round pick. Last year, we traded away Spezza for a player, pick and prospect. The year before that, We traded for Ryan for a player, pick & prospect. Why can't we do that again now for a top 4 defenceman from a bottom dwelling team? Would that impact the roster tragically? These trades happen every year, it's just the parity in the league that is slowing things down. Not the cap.
Everyone can criticize the team, but you can do so knowing that there's more to the story that we don't know. That doesn't mean that what the GM is doing or who the coach puts out is always the right move, but if you want to continue to be a Yes Man, go ahead. And sorry for me wanting to see the team that I support want to improve while knowing that there are 29 other teams that are doing the same thing.
senior said
Dec 30, 2015
Russell wrote:
Kardinal wrote:
Russell wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
One of them did use the season ticket card. And I can't say I stayed rational when tucker's name came up.
Oh, and thanks for jumping in and helping me out, brother!
I can remember a couple of goaltender debates that went "twitter".
Russell said
Dec 30, 2015
Kardinal wrote:
Russell wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
One of them did use the season ticket card. And I can't say I stayed rational when tucker's name came up.
Oh, and thanks for jumping in and helping me out, brother!
Kardinal said
Dec 30, 2015
Russell wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
Russell said
Dec 30, 2015
Homer wrote:
Russell wrote:
senior wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Well there is a reason they call it TWITter.
-- Edited by senior on Wednesday 30th of December 2015 10:38:06 PM
Not sure I want to know the answer to this, but did people think I was completely out to lunch when we did the podcast?
if you were and I listed to every episode, should I be worried?
You should be past the infectious stage by now.
Russell said
Dec 30, 2015
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
Homer said
Dec 30, 2015
Russell wrote:
senior wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Well there is a reason they call it TWITter.
-- Edited by senior on Wednesday 30th of December 2015 10:38:06 PM
Not sure I want to know the answer to this, but did people think I was completely out to lunch when we did the podcast?
if you were and I listed to every episode, should I be worried?
Russell said
Dec 30, 2015
senior wrote:
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Well there is a reason they call it TWITter.
-- Edited by senior on Wednesday 30th of December 2015 10:38:06 PM
Not sure I want to know the answer to this, but did people think I was completely out to lunch when we did the podcast?
senior said
Dec 30, 2015
Russell wrote:
ok, from now on I stay in here. twitter is full of some of the stupidest, most stubborn dough heads you will ever meet. I know better yet i went there anyways. its on me.
Well there is a reason they call it TWITter.
-- Edited by senior on Wednesday 30th of December 2015 10:38:06 PM
remember what colin campbell said in that email that was leaked: " we sell hate".
plus he got 5 games the last time he low bridged a player so he actually got off lighter and he's a multiple time repeat offender. You'd think Boston of all teams would be sensitive to guys actually trying to hurt other players with what happened to Bergeron and Savard. This guy is no better than Matt Cooke or Raffi Torres it's just that his hits haven't yet put someone out of the game (Savard) or in the hospital for an extended time (Bergeron). The NHL is not serious at all about stopping this stuff or they would have did it already.
He never apologized to Boro, he's only sorry for missing out on the Winter Classic and their trying to make it sound like he's a class act.
“I think it speaks a lot for Brad for wanting to be out in front of this today, the impact it has on the team, the game and the fans,” said general manager Don Sweeney. “He asked us if he could address it in front of teammates before we went out for practice. It speaks to maturity. It says a lot and the impact he has on our lineup.”
The last 2 games were just awful by a team that is expecting to compete for a playoff spot and it's totally frustrating. AO is right about mid season trades and of the 3 teams I follow ALL 3 need and want defensemen Van, SJ and Ottawa. Ottawa has 2 studs on the way in White and Chabot but that's the future and Pan rightfully wants the now because he does put his money on the line and pays to watch this and I think I'm being kind, mediocre mess on D.
I see a common trend here: all occurred in the off-season. Midseason trades are not going to happen outside of the trade deadline because of the league parity and too many teams are tight on the cap. Add in the simple fact that it's a seller's market now with only about 8 teams being out of it, limiting the available players to trade for of which most are utter crap.
I'll reply to the wall-of-text rant during our next episode, rather than here. It'll be more fun that way.
Good rant. I'm done with it though. Everyone has their opinions and one thing i know is people rarely change them. As for being a yes man, I think the 7 years on the podcast stands as evidence against that for me.
Sorry, but I totally disagree with you guys on this one. Yes, Bryan Murray is the GM. No, I am not a GM, but my clients also challenge me & some think they can do a better job than I can. It's just a fact as to how people feel about things. I don't compare my abilities to my clients, I compare my abilities to colleagues in the same position & peers in the industry. This comparison of GMs is fair and SHOULD BE DONE.
Murray has been in hockey for 40 years. He hasn't won anything. He is AT BEST a mediocre GM. Ottawa may be more challenging based in regards to how much funding you can do. That may or may not explain hiring of his last THREE head coaches who were first time NHL Head Coaches without other experience of which two ended in absolute flames & the current one is LUCKIER THAN HE IS GOOD
The Sens are 28th in shots for per game, 30th in shots against per game & the goal scoring is trending downwards as shooting percentage was high early.
Between Cowen & Greening, the Sens paid $5.5M in salary to not play tonight. This, in my opinion, is unacceptable. The healthy scratches in the playoffs way even more expensive. You can't win them all, but you would think that the team would know not to extend big money to guys who just got points with Spezza. He's made guys like Eaves, Bochenski & Greening lots of money that they didn't really deserve.
Saying that trades aren't done also doesn't pan out. This summer, we got an additional 1st round pick. Last year, we traded away Spezza for a player, pick and prospect. The year before that, We traded for Ryan for a player, pick & prospect. Why can't we do that again now for a top 4 defenceman from a bottom dwelling team? Would that impact the roster tragically? These trades happen every year, it's just the parity in the league that is slowing things down. Not the cap.
Everyone can criticize the team, but you can do so knowing that there's more to the story that we don't know. That doesn't mean that what the GM is doing or who the coach puts out is always the right move, but if you want to continue to be a Yes Man, go ahead. And sorry for me wanting to see the team that I support want to improve while knowing that there are 29 other teams that are doing the same thing.
I can remember a couple of goaltender debates that went "twitter".
One of them did use the season ticket card. And I can't say I stayed rational when tucker's name came up.
Oh, and thanks for jumping in and helping me out, brother!
You had it right the first time -- I was watching and admiring your tenacity to continue to bang your head against the wall when it was clear that common sense wasn't common in that "conversation".
I'm surprised the "I've been a season ticket holder for many years" card didn't get played.
As a podcast host, you were passionate BUT RATIONAL. Twitter gives people a pass on the latter it takes too many characters to convey.
Actually, I take that back. Let's just say they are uninformed and some what delusional. But it is a nice dream world they live in.
if you were and I listed to every episode, should I be worried?
Not sure I want to know the answer to this, but did people think I was completely out to lunch when we did the podcast?
Well there is a reason they call it TWITter.
-- Edited by senior on Wednesday 30th of December 2015 10:38:06 PM